Showing posts with label Poker Crimes. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Poker Crimes. Show all posts

Loaning Borrowing and Transferring Money for Poker and Some Problems!

So you are short of cash on online poker sites and figure that you will find someone will roll you up? You have a fair amount of cash online and someone needs a loan? You plan on transferring money - swapping from one site to another? You have a live tournament to play and plan on getting staked? All of these things come under the categories of "Loaning, Borrowing and Transferring Money for Poker". I have seen a lot of these transactions lately and although it is not new and has long been a way to operate in poker for a long time, it can cause issues regardless of what side of the deal you are on.

Every poker player has their ups and downs no matter how good or bad they are. There is one thing for certain though. A very good poker player will never go completely busto. Let's think of the likes of Doyle Brunson, Phil Ivey and the like. Can you imagine them going completely broke - EVER? These poker players have built thier bankrolls and have played accordingly and managed poker like a business. If you are needing a loan from a friend to play a game, I would suggest you start considering this factor, the factor of good poker management. Sure we cant help a downward spiral of losses but we can ensure we deal with them appropriately and lower our stakes to build things back up. Issue number 1 is obviously self control! Control yourself before you dig yourself a hole of debt you can not escape.

On the other hand many of us form strong bonds and relationships in poker and see a friend in need and want to help. The fact is, in poker you are always going to see friends having their very low down moments. We are not all Phil Iveys! Lets remember that poker is much like life, you do not loan your money (your car or your wife / husband lol). It has got to be a very trusted person for you to loan money to and a person who needs it for a good reason, right? Starvation, house burnt down, got flooded, robbed, needs medical care are all good reasons. Is a poker tournament? What are the chances of getting paid back? Sure they are your friend (for now), they are you very good friend but .... there is no guarantee they are going to win and then they are going to have to loan more money right? What are you going to do when you need that money back? Say goodbye to the friendship! I have seen massive fights that have never been resolved through loaning money to friends in poker. Issue number 2 is keeping your friendships. Simply not being able to afford to loan to a friend or not having access to funds is a good way to get out of it to avoid a permanent friendship breakdown.

Transferring money causes issues too! A simple transfer or helping a friend cash out can cause much chaos and a lot of tension between players. Sometimes we do not have a way to cash out but our friend does. We use them as a means to get our money. We can transfer to them on the online poker site and they can draw out funds for us. If something goes wrong their end however with bank and online merchant delays and screw ups let the fights begin! The same applies for the other way around. You deposit for them and transfer them the money expecting cash in return. The cash doesn't come and you are furious! Things happen, its not normally anyones "fault" as such, unless they are a rip off and planned it. If they are your friend though its unlikely! Issue 3 is keeping things calm when transfers go wrong, its hard but its a must and this issue happens regularly! Accounts get frozen and funds get held up, its a common and unfortunate thing!

Lets look at a backing situation and what can go wrong! You offer to back your friend into a tournament for a 70% return on your money when he cashes. He doesn't cash, you expect not to get paid off. He does cash and doesn't pay you off as he has sold shares to others as well? I have seen people over sell themselves so many times and fall short with an inability to pay the return. Nasty! I have also seen friends furious with friends they have backed for making a move that they wouldn't and busting out. It isn't pretty! It also becomes a big issue when the backing money isn't dished up! I saw players at recent tournaments promised backing, the backing money was held up so they used other means until it came through, means ($$) they couldn't afford or didn't plan on using. The money backing money never arrived! Did someone say fight? Issue number 4 when it comes to money and poker and loaning and borrowing is ensuring backing transactions run smoothly. Don't just assume they will, even the biggest of players get caught!

All in all, to keep within your own means and funds is the best way for sure perfection when it comes to friendships and a smooth poker life. Keep your funds where they belong and don't mix and match them with your friends. If it is a business deal and done between yourself and colleagues, that can be different, but when it is a friend, the sure way to keep a friend is to keep poker business away from the friendship. Also watch who you are dealing with w
hen it comes to business transactions. I have found some big fat rip offs of late! I would hate anyone else to encounter them!

Read More

David Saab is my Friend How Can he have become a Drug Trafficker?

It not often I am speechless. For the past few days I have been though. As per my last blog post I was headed off to the Aussie Millions and excited about meeting up with all of my friends I speak to pretty much daily; sometimes weekly. My first port of call was definitely to see David Saab, a good friend, a loved friend, a friend I can't believe is a drug trafficker!


David rang me up just 2 days before arrived and said "Hello my little drinking buddy! When will you be here?!?!" I told him i would meet him at the bar at the player party, I was very excited to be seeing him. He has been a great friend, supporter and adviser. At times he has been my rock, he has been my co-host, my friend.


At the bar we met, first person I saw when walking into the party. Hugs, kisses, drink jammed in my hand. All the usual behavior and excitement about the up and coming game and weekends. I went looking for other friends after this, lost track of where Dave was but had it sorted to meet with him and the Saab crew the next morning at 10:30am. I really was so very excited to meet all the members of his newly formed crew to say the least. Particularly Remo who I am also in close contact with - specifically come my final tables.


So I meet with the guys the next morning, talk to them for ages, go to a party later that night, speak to Remo at the party for what seemed an hour and went back to my motel. I didnt see them the next day or night and traveled home to do some "homely things" and get ready for week 2 of my Aussie Millions appointment. Then I received a phone call that no friend wants to hear. It was my birthday, I was in terrible shock, it ruined my day to say the least. The guys acted like their normal selves, we talked about poker and the Saab crew and life in general. Nothing was out of the ordinary in their behavior or actions. Any wonder I was shocked!


As per all of the articles you have likely read, David and Remo and some other guy were placed in jail after allegedly smuggling 21kg's of Cocaine into Australia from Vancouver. I was again; shocked but mostly in disbelief - I think I will be in disbelief until I know every factual detail. It kind of reminds me of when Victoria Coren wrote about her disbelief about Ron Fanelli the mad yank who murdered a prostitute and placed her body parts in a bag. Why did it? I didn't believe Dave would do this and I could not imagine him spending years of his life in prison. He is not that kind of guy (the same thing Victoria had said about Ron).


I have been asked many questions since the news broke. I have read a lot of horrible things about my friends in relation to this. Most people do write that Dave is a good guy and of course I agree. Most people are also in disbelief. Many supportive, many defamatory.


Lot's of people say (now - not before) that David was obviously on drugs due to his bright, bubbly, shit talking personality. I can say as far as I am aware he isn't a coke addict and he is always bright and bubbly, giggly and talking non stop at even 9am whilst he has a hangover and drink his green tea. They couldn't be further from the truth. He is a bright man and that's just him. Again an intelligent man, which again; brings me to further disbelief.


Time will tell, I have no answers other then I will be keeping faith and hoping for the best for my friend even if he did do something stupid. Again IF. I find this hard to believe from David Saab.


Back to Aussie Millions tomorrow and hopefully not back there to be asked stupid questions that I cant answer. I read the same papers and speak to the same people as anyone who would ask me anything so I really have nothing to comment about.

Read More
Related Posts with Thumbnails